Do you think there is a difference between the story of Zeus birthing a child from his own head and Noah’s Ark? Both are entirely made up. The only difference is that some people still believe one of them.
Jesus is a friend of mine and makes me feel good sometimes. But I don't claim to know who he is.
In what way is Jesus your friend? He is dead and has been for over 2,000 years.
Everyone is scared of dying. Anybody that claims they aren't is a liar.
Totally false... When/If death is inevitable, most people who accept it are comfortable with it.
I know 3 people off the top of my head that I've been very close with personally that were comfortable with their upcoming deaths.
Everyone is afraid of death; if not they wouldn't protect themselves. They wouldn't eat, they wouldn't wear seat belts, they wouldn't be scared of being shot; they wouldn't be afraid of heights.
Totally false... When/If death is inevitable, most people who accept it are comfortable with it.
I know 3 people off the top of my head that I've been very close with personally that were comfortable with their upcoming deaths.
Everyone is afraid of death; if not they wouldn't protect themselves. They wouldn't eat, they wouldn't wear seat belts, they wouldn't be scared of being shot; they wouldn't be afraid of heights.
I loathe the tyranny of being forced to wear a seatbelt. It’s my damn life and if I wanna die, who are you to tell me I can’t? Dickheads.
snerb Where are we going, and why am I in a hand basket?
Totally false... When/If death is inevitable, most people who accept it are comfortable with it.
I know 3 people off the top of my head that I've been very close with personally that were comfortable with their upcoming deaths.
Everyone is afraid of death; if not they wouldn't protect themselves. They wouldn't eat, they wouldn't wear seat belts, they wouldn't be scared of being shot; they wouldn't be afraid of heights.
When death is inevitable...
I don't buckle my seat belt because I'm afraid of dying...I buckle my seat belt because it's common sense.
Are you scared of being shot?
snerb Where are we going, and why am I in a hand basket?
Everyone is afraid of death; if not they wouldn't protect themselves. They wouldn't eat, they wouldn't wear seat belts, they wouldn't be scared of being shot; they wouldn't be afraid of heights.
When death is inevitable...
I don't buckle my seat belt because I'm afraid of dying...I buckle my seat belt because it's common sense.
Are you scared of being shot?
lol common sense... yes it's common sense because it prevents death. It's common sense not to walk on a bridge with no side railings that have holes in it as well. Because we are likely to die if we fall off that bridge, so it's common sense to do what you can not to die.
I am scared of walking into a war zone and being shot. I am scared of walking across a path wear people hunt, or in front of a gun range.
The vast majority of people are scared of death. Those who are not take a lot more risks, they probably do not feel much pain either (there are people who do not feel any pain). Evolution has caused everyone to fear death/pain. If we didn't we wouldn't have survived as a species.
snerb Where are we going, and why am I in a hand basket?
I don't buckle my seat belt because I'm afraid of dying...I buckle my seat belt because it's common sense.
Are you scared of being shot?
lol common sense... yes it's common sense because it prevents death. It's common sense not to walk on a bridge with no side railings that have holes in it as well. Because we are likely to die if we fall off that bridge, so it's common sense to do what you can not to die.
I am scared of walking into a war zone and being shot. I am scared of walking across a path wear people hunt, or in front of a gun range.
The vast majority of people are scared of death. Those who are not take a lot more risks, they probably do not feel much pain either (there are people who do not feel any pain). Evolution has caused everyone to fear death/pain. If we didn't we wouldn't have survived as a species.
'Vast majority' is not everyone.
You've made my point...not everyone is scared of dying.
lol common sense... yes it's common sense because it prevents death. It's common sense not to walk on a bridge with no side railings that have holes in it as well. Because we are likely to die if we fall off that bridge, so it's common sense to do what you can not to die.
I am scared of walking into a war zone and being shot. I am scared of walking across a path wear people hunt, or in front of a gun range.
The vast majority of people are scared of death. Those who are not take a lot more risks, they probably do not feel much pain either (there are people who do not feel any pain). Evolution has caused everyone to fear death/pain. If we didn't we wouldn't have survived as a species.
'Vast majority' is not everyone.
You've made my point...not everyone is scared of dying.
ok I see I was somewhat talking over your points/caveats.
I don't think you were saying "not everyone" either, it was "most people who accept the inevitable".
But other people's points were that most people are scared of death. Just like most people experience pain, there are billions of people, someone's brain composition will have some fluke in it where their mentality causes them to have no fear of anything.
snerb Where are we going, and why am I in a hand basket?
I'm sure you do...and in your life experiences that may be the case.
I can tell you that my experiences have been different and contrary to yours.
I understand, I just think you are conflating unrelated ideas here. I "accept" the fact that I need to drive places, and I'm "comfortable" doing it - yet, when things happen and I come close to being in a serious accident, there is real fear there. Same principle applies to people with any terminal situation - they can accept the reality that they're going to die, and be comfortable with that idea - yet when the time actually comes, I think it would be very odd to not be legitimately afraid of that "unknown" that comes next.
There are many who believe, whole heartedly, that there is no "unknown" after death and they know exactly what awaits them.
You may not agree with those beliefs, but that doesn't make them wrong.
I'm sure you do...and in your life experiences that may be the case.
I can tell you that my experiences have been different and contrary to yours.
I understand, I just think you are conflating unrelated ideas here. I "accept" the fact that I need to drive places, and I'm "comfortable" doing it - yet, when things happen and I come close to being in a serious accident, there is real fear there. Same principle applies to people with any terminal situation - they can accept the reality that they're going to die, and be comfortable with that idea - yet when the time actually comes, I think it would be very odd to not be legitimately afraid of that "unknown" that comes next.
You think there is an unknown as to what happens next?
Totally false... When/If death is inevitable, most people who accept it are comfortable with it.
I know 3 people off the top of my head that I've been very close with personally that were comfortable with their upcoming deaths.
Everyone is afraid of death; if not they wouldn't protect themselves. They wouldn't eat, they wouldn't wear seat belts, they wouldn't be scared of being shot; they wouldn't be afraid of heights.
Totally false... When/If death is inevitable, most people who accept it are comfortable with it.
I know 3 people off the top of my head that I've been very close with personally that were comfortable with their upcoming deaths.
Everyone is afraid of death; if not they wouldn't protect themselves. They wouldn't eat, they wouldn't wear seat belts, they wouldn't be scared of being shot; they wouldn't be afraid of heights.
Your points dont really work here. You can not want to die and at the same time not be afraid of death. You can also just really enjoy being alive. I can eat because food tastes great or because I don't like the the discomfort of feeling hungry. I can not want to get shot because I fear the pain, in fact personally pain is on a higher rung of fear than death is for me. I fear suffering and pain far more than dying.
Now I do agree that most people probably have some level of fear of death, just because its an unknown and its human nature to fear the unknown. But I hard disagree fear of death is what motivates most people to live.
How scared? I’ve almost died 3 times now and it’s hard to describe. One time, the first time, it was scary but more because of the situation. For a moment I had zero control of what was going on. The other two times it was weirdly euphoric. Like I was in control of my portion of the equation and I was not scared. You don’t want to die, is what I think you mean.
This is, in my experience, true.
In the military, training can push the limits of safety. In my case I was in the airborne. We often jumped from very low altitudes. This meant very little time from exit to chute deployment to landing. If you have parachute trouble there is just seconds before it's too late. My malfunction is called a "cigarette roll", it comes out but doesn't open. You have just a couple of seconds to make the right choice (if there is one). No time for panic or fear. Your focus is solely on overcoming the problem.
In the military, training can push the limits of safety. In my case I was in the airborne. We often jumped from very low altitudes. This meant very little time from exit to chute deployment to landing. If you have parachute trouble there is just seconds before it's too late. My malfunction is called a "cigarette roll", it comes out but doesn't open. You have just a couple of seconds to make the right choice (if there is one). No time for panic or fear. Your focus is solely on overcoming the problem.
I think we call that a streamer but modern parachutes are a lot better than what you were probably used to.
My scariest moment was getting shot at point blank by an SA-8.
WHAT? If you feel like it can you explain to us laymen what happened? I don't even know what an SA-8 is. Sounds like it could be a very interesting story, but only if you want to.
In the military, training can push the limits of safety. In my case I was in the airborne. We often jumped from very low altitudes. This meant very little time from exit to chute deployment to landing. If you have parachute trouble there is just seconds before it's too late. My malfunction is called a "cigarette roll", it comes out but doesn't open. You have just a couple of seconds to make the right choice (if there is one). No time for panic or fear. Your focus is solely on overcoming the problem.
I think we call that a streamer but modern parachutes are a lot better than what you were probably used to.
My scariest moment was getting shot at point blank by an SA-8.
Yeah, scariest moment was having "friendly" arty fire walking in on my position.... 300m then 200m.. then I was well on my way out of the area before the 3rd one hit 50m from my position...
Last Edit: Jun 18, 2020 14:31:00 GMT -8 by BuckysRevenge