Battlefield keeps trying to go bigger and bigger

What is the core of a good battlefield game?


infantry, vehicles, gun play, player count, and good map design


What is fun about battlefield?


Being able to shoot, run around like crazy, and win the game with the friends in your squad however you want to play




at 64 players things are already either a cluster fuck or spread too thin.  There are too many objectives and too many players that most of the game has already broken down.  Air vehicles are out numbered by stingers and other ground to air defenses 20 to 1 so they are no longer a factor to the point of frustration.  Choke points that are meant for fewer amounts of players turn into a meat grinder with endless grenades and no hope of pushing through.  Tanks are either rendered useless by having too few to just die by a million rockets or there are too many so everyone gets one which ruins the balance between infantry and vehicles further.  So vehicles are already just frustration or the only way to not get killed is to join them.


A squad of 4 talented and coordinated players is too small to turn the tide in most cases, you do not have an impact on if your team can win which is not fun.  Now think of all ive said and lets bump up the map size and the player count to 128.  Going from a minor impact to your team to no impact here, that will just lead to frustration.  It seems they just want pure chaos where you get killed from things you cannot avoid, again not fun.  Did anyone like the huge blimp killing you in BF1?  Yea thought not.


Does DICE know how to make a fun game anymore?  Was BF3 a fluke?  32-36 player rush and conquest flourished beyond belief in those games and there wasnt anything else like it.  Is it just marketing pushing larger numbers trying to get sales?  What im hearing so far is just doubling down on this same decisions that made BF1 and BF5 massive disappointments.  BF5 was also a massive financial failure.  Not looking good but hopefully there is some optionality and player run servers.  But then again conquest small is likely to be 64 players which is still too much unless you have the most perfect map ever which they still have not made.  Rush is no where to be found but they neutered that already in BF1